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		<title>By: Gail S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was right with you until this:

&quot;The magic of America, since the nation’s inception, has been the internal gyroscopes of the people, free to gravitate toward each individual’s true north. That, to a great extent, is what American Exceptionalism is and has always been. And it is the Administration’s failure to understand this aspect of the American psyche that is perilous to all of us.&quot;

The current administration does understand this about America and perceives it as pure, unadulterated evil.  The Administration is doing its very best with its little acknowledged illegal immigrant amnesty legislation to so overwhelm the American people with 3rd world foreigners who are submissive to statist abuses that we will be unable to stop them.

The problem I have with every conservative analysis of this administration is the insistence that they are naive or ignorant.  They are neither.  They are on a full frontal assault of our liberty, our Constitution and our sovereignty, and it is not with good intentions.

Best regards,
Gail S
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was right with you until this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The magic of America, since the nation’s inception, has been the internal gyroscopes of the people, free to gravitate toward each individual’s true north. That, to a great extent, is what American Exceptionalism is and has always been. And it is the Administration’s failure to understand this aspect of the American psyche that is perilous to all of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>The current administration does understand this about America and perceives it as pure, unadulterated evil.  The Administration is doing its very best with its little acknowledged illegal immigrant amnesty legislation to so overwhelm the American people with 3rd world foreigners who are submissive to statist abuses that we will be unable to stop them.</p>
<p>The problem I have with every conservative analysis of this administration is the insistence that they are naive or ignorant.  They are neither.  They are on a full frontal assault of our liberty, our Constitution and our sovereignty, and it is not with good intentions.</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Gail S<br />
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		<title>By: Hal Gershowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Gershowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because Congress does not permit a free marketplace to exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because Congress does not permit a free marketplace to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Swirnoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Swirnoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health insurers have &#039;ignited the case&#039; for regulation, Lois Quam says
By Casey Selix &#124; Thursday, Oct. 29, 2009

Former UnitedHealth Group executive Lois Quam said Wednesday that the health-insurance industry&#039;s actions in the reform debate have &quot;ignited the case&quot; for federal regulation of the industry, including its governance, compensation and business practices.

&quot;It is simply a matter of when and what,&quot; she told an audience at the Hubert H. Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs. &quot;Insurers could have avoided this by demonstrating a consistent public spirit in this debate, but rather their actions have made these steps simply a matter of time.&quot;

Insurers currently are regulated by individual states; in Minnesota, the Commerce Department polices the nonprofit industry.

 

 

Quam&#039;s remarks came during a lecture titled &quot;Making Insurers Accountable: The Case for a Public Option in Health Reform.&quot; The lecture was sponsored by the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance. Though the lecture was scheduled some weeks ago, it was especially timely because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., proposed an opt-out public option earlier this week.

Views &#039;have always differed&#039;
Quam, who now runs an incubator focused on health care and the green economy, said she&#039;s well aware that her views on insurance reform and a public option &quot;have always differed&quot; from other UnitedHealth executives and the insurance industry as a whole.
Lois Quam
Lois Quam

&quot;Though I left the insurance industry several years ago,&quot; she said, &quot;I knew that this time the insurance industry had an opportunity to take a new course in the health-care reform debate — a different course than they had taken in the &#039;90s [during Clinton reform effort], a different course than they had taken when they opposed Medicare and Medicaid in the &#039;60s.&quot;

She said the industry&#039;s recent release of a controversial PriceWaterhouseCoopers report, which claims reform proposals will increase the cost of private insurance, showed her that little has changed since the last reform effort. Insurers&#039; &quot;efforts to protect themselves rather than build something for the American people&quot; will lead to more reform than expected, she said, pointing to the recent revival of the public option.  

&quot;As a result, with its behavior during the debate, the industry itself has made the case for public health insurance,&quot; she said.

Gaps showed need for programs
Public programs like Medicare and MinnesotaCare came about because of gaps in health insurance coverage, said Quam, who led the effort to create MinnesotaCare, an insurance program for low-income residents.

&quot;The very reason Medicare had to be created in the 1960s was because the private health insurance market wasn&#039;t offering affordable coverage to seniors,&quot; she said.

In a question-and-answer session afterward, Larry Jacobs, director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance, asked Quam whether she supported the opt-out public option proposed by Reid. Such a provision would allow states to decide whether or not they wanted to participate in the health-care program.

&quot;I’d much rather have a public option that does not include opt-out,&quot; she said. &quot;Having worked in health care for a long time, I’ve seen that some states like Minnesota do a good job (with public programs) and some states don’t.&quot; She cited the Mississippi Medicaid program as one that does not work well.

It was also during the Q&amp;A that Quam said that the health-insurance industry’s tactics in the debate prompted more calls for ending a longtime anti-trust exemption.

&quot;Its actions in this debate have ignited the case for federal health-insurance regulation,&quot; she said.

Though individual states have regulated the industry, she said, insurers are growing into national concerns. Quam’s former employer, Minnetonka-based UnitedHealth, is the nation’s largest insurer.

Health insurers could have made a better case for themselves in Washington, she said, by acknowledging their historic resistance to reform and indicating a willingness to work on universal access for all Americans, including a public option. &quot;[They could have said] &#039;we understand that reform is really important and that this is about the American people. It’s not about taking care of us; it’s about taking care of the American people, and we think we have a lot to offer and we would like to offer it.&#039;

&quot;They could have supported a public option, and when the going got tough, it’s not attacking the people who are trying to make it work. That’s what it would have taken.&quot;

Casey Selix, a news editor and staff writer for MinnPost.com, can be reached at cselix[at]minnpost.com. Follow her on Twitter.
Health &#124; Thu, Oct 29 2009 8:14 am</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health insurers have &#8216;ignited the case&#8217; for regulation, Lois Quam says<br />
By Casey Selix | Thursday, Oct. 29, 2009</p>
<p>Former UnitedHealth Group executive Lois Quam said Wednesday that the health-insurance industry&#8217;s actions in the reform debate have &#8220;ignited the case&#8221; for federal regulation of the industry, including its governance, compensation and business practices.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is simply a matter of when and what,&#8221; she told an audience at the Hubert H. Humphrey Institute of Public Affairs. &#8220;Insurers could have avoided this by demonstrating a consistent public spirit in this debate, but rather their actions have made these steps simply a matter of time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Insurers currently are regulated by individual states; in Minnesota, the Commerce Department polices the nonprofit industry.</p>
<p>Quam&#8217;s remarks came during a lecture titled &#8220;Making Insurers Accountable: The Case for a Public Option in Health Reform.&#8221; The lecture was sponsored by the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance. Though the lecture was scheduled some weeks ago, it was especially timely because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., proposed an opt-out public option earlier this week.</p>
<p>Views &#8216;have always differed&#8217;<br />
Quam, who now runs an incubator focused on health care and the green economy, said she&#8217;s well aware that her views on insurance reform and a public option &#8220;have always differed&#8221; from other UnitedHealth executives and the insurance industry as a whole.<br />
Lois Quam<br />
Lois Quam</p>
<p>&#8220;Though I left the insurance industry several years ago,&#8221; she said, &#8220;I knew that this time the insurance industry had an opportunity to take a new course in the health-care reform debate — a different course than they had taken in the &#8217;90s [during Clinton reform effort], a different course than they had taken when they opposed Medicare and Medicaid in the &#8217;60s.&#8221;</p>
<p>She said the industry&#8217;s recent release of a controversial PriceWaterhouseCoopers report, which claims reform proposals will increase the cost of private insurance, showed her that little has changed since the last reform effort. Insurers&#8217; &#8220;efforts to protect themselves rather than build something for the American people&#8221; will lead to more reform than expected, she said, pointing to the recent revival of the public option.  </p>
<p>&#8220;As a result, with its behavior during the debate, the industry itself has made the case for public health insurance,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Gaps showed need for programs<br />
Public programs like Medicare and MinnesotaCare came about because of gaps in health insurance coverage, said Quam, who led the effort to create MinnesotaCare, an insurance program for low-income residents.</p>
<p>&#8220;The very reason Medicare had to be created in the 1960s was because the private health insurance market wasn&#8217;t offering affordable coverage to seniors,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>In a question-and-answer session afterward, Larry Jacobs, director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance, asked Quam whether she supported the opt-out public option proposed by Reid. Such a provision would allow states to decide whether or not they wanted to participate in the health-care program.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’d much rather have a public option that does not include opt-out,&#8221; she said. &#8220;Having worked in health care for a long time, I’ve seen that some states like Minnesota do a good job (with public programs) and some states don’t.&#8221; She cited the Mississippi Medicaid program as one that does not work well.</p>
<p>It was also during the Q&amp;A that Quam said that the health-insurance industry’s tactics in the debate prompted more calls for ending a longtime anti-trust exemption.</p>
<p>&#8220;Its actions in this debate have ignited the case for federal health-insurance regulation,&#8221; she said.</p>
<p>Though individual states have regulated the industry, she said, insurers are growing into national concerns. Quam’s former employer, Minnetonka-based UnitedHealth, is the nation’s largest insurer.</p>
<p>Health insurers could have made a better case for themselves in Washington, she said, by acknowledging their historic resistance to reform and indicating a willingness to work on universal access for all Americans, including a public option. &#8220;[They could have said] &#8216;we understand that reform is really important and that this is about the American people. It’s not about taking care of us; it’s about taking care of the American people, and we think we have a lot to offer and we would like to offer it.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;They could have supported a public option, and when the going got tough, it’s not attacking the people who are trying to make it work. That’s what it would have taken.&#8221;</p>
<p>Casey Selix, a news editor and staff writer for MinnPost.com, can be reached at cselix[at]minnpost.com. Follow her on Twitter.<br />
Health | Thu, Oct 29 2009 8:14 am</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Autry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Autry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the tenets of Vladimir Lenin:
Scapegoating the rich and all enemies of the regime
Controling the media
Demonizing the opposition
Claiming absolute power, even if you don&#039;t have it
Never admit you are wrong (assign blame)
Exploiting ethnic hatred

John Milton, &quot;A tyrant is he who regarding neither law not the common good, reigns only for himself and his faction&quot;.

I recall a story I read some years ago ( I don&#039;t remember the source) about a father and his young son visiting the Nation&#039;s Capital.  They were standing in front of the White House and the father told his son that a very powerful man used to live in this house and that powerful man was forced to give up his power and leave his exalted position in this house, and most importantly not one shot was fired.  Only in a free country is this possible.

Tom Autry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the tenets of Vladimir Lenin:<br />
Scapegoating the rich and all enemies of the regime<br />
Controling the media<br />
Demonizing the opposition<br />
Claiming absolute power, even if you don&#8217;t have it<br />
Never admit you are wrong (assign blame)<br />
Exploiting ethnic hatred</p>
<p>John Milton, &#8220;A tyrant is he who regarding neither law not the common good, reigns only for himself and his faction&#8221;.</p>
<p>I recall a story I read some years ago ( I don&#8217;t remember the source) about a father and his young son visiting the Nation&#8217;s Capital.  They were standing in front of the White House and the father told his son that a very powerful man used to live in this house and that powerful man was forced to give up his power and leave his exalted position in this house, and most importantly not one shot was fired.  Only in a free country is this possible.</p>
<p>Tom Autry</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary Lenners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary Lenners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the insurance companies are not trying to control territories, then why are only a few companies offered in various states?  I heard people in a CA town hall meeting asking why only 6 insurance companies are allowed to do business in CA--one of the biggest states in the nation.  Is the state not willing to regulate all the insurance companies?  I know here in New Mexico my sister could not have the same insurance that she had in Arizona prior to moving here.  Maybe the insurance companies to need some regulation, however, I certainly agree that the ham-fisted approach to Obama&#039;s medical care overhaul is an attempt by the government to take this nation towards socialism which really scares me.  Why is it an all or nothing approach.  Why not incremental changes, giving the insurance companies a chance to clean up their acts?  Chicago-style politics at work, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the insurance companies are not trying to control territories, then why are only a few companies offered in various states?  I heard people in a CA town hall meeting asking why only 6 insurance companies are allowed to do business in CA&#8211;one of the biggest states in the nation.  Is the state not willing to regulate all the insurance companies?  I know here in New Mexico my sister could not have the same insurance that she had in Arizona prior to moving here.  Maybe the insurance companies to need some regulation, however, I certainly agree that the ham-fisted approach to Obama&#8217;s medical care overhaul is an attempt by the government to take this nation towards socialism which really scares me.  Why is it an all or nothing approach.  Why not incremental changes, giving the insurance companies a chance to clean up their acts?  Chicago-style politics at work, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well done. It&#039;s frightening regardless of which party is doing it. It&#039;s interesting to me how often we hear about the &quot;greedy insurance industry&quot; without anyone ever bothering to ask &quot;How have you determined that ?&quot; I haven&#039;t seen or heard any facts to either support or refute that, either from the press or from anyone in government. As a result we are all just assuming it to be so. (Unless profit is now considered to be a function of greed).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well done. It&#8217;s frightening regardless of which party is doing it. It&#8217;s interesting to me how often we hear about the &#8220;greedy insurance industry&#8221; without anyone ever bothering to ask &#8220;How have you determined that ?&#8221; I haven&#8217;t seen or heard any facts to either support or refute that, either from the press or from anyone in government. As a result we are all just assuming it to be so. (Unless profit is now considered to be a function of greed).</p>
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